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#1 Late Bloomer

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:54 PM

I recently discussed this topic with a few others, briefly, in another forum, on another site. (Sorry to have to admit that). Anyway, I found the subject very interesting, and wished we'd discussed it in more depth. It got started by a writer looking for ideas, and morphed into others admitting they typically stuck to two or three reasons for murder in their books, although, not purposely. Which had me looking at mine, seeing as how murder played a role in every book I've written thus far. 

 

So far, I've used:

 

A psychopathic abuser 

Murder for hire 

A crime of passion 

Money

Revenge

Serial killer (another psychopath)

Drugs

 

 

How about you?  Do you find yourself using the same reasons for murder over and over, or have you been versatile?



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 02:55 PM

I try to be versatile. I've done the child killer/serial killer. It's hard to get away from Revenge, as it's as old as the bible.

 

I've used killing to keep a secret a secret. I've used killing for sexual pleasure (which is psychopatic).

 

So, I've used:

 

Revenge

Serial Killer

Psychopatic abuser

Crime of Passion

 

But I think what's important here is HOW you're using these reasons. You can dress each of them up very differently. Dunno... but I love writing murders! :laugh:


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 04:03 PM

I think the murder in Warrior is pretty unique, murder as duty.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 10:19 PM

Murder as duty - definitely not on the top ten list, Tom.

 

And you're absolutely right, Thrownbones, there are endless ways for us to create that drama.

 

When I started writing I had expected I'd write strictly romances, but quickly found myself sneaking in a few murders, even in my very first story.  God, it's fun! (I hope that doesn't sound as morbid as I think it does) But dreaming up different ways to do it, different ways to get away with it (for a while, that is), and the twists in the reasons is loads of fun. In other words, the how, where, why and when of it all.

 

Actually, when I started thinking about it, I realized that just about every one of my killers has had a little psycho inside them, no matter what their reason for murder. In fact, I could probably label each with two or three of those top ten reasons for murder. I guess things get kind of murky when you're in the mind of a killer.

 

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 12:49 PM

Children ?!?!  :blink:


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:30 PM

Top Ten Eleven Reasons for Murder:

 

11. Trying to decide if this blade is better for fileting, or boning.

 

10. These lampshades aren't going to make themselves.

 

9. Do you have any idea how hard it is to come up with something new to blog about every week?

 

8. Need the blood of an innocent teen if I'm going to refresh my immortality (trust me, this was a lot easier before SnapChat.)

 

7. It's called life insurance, not near-miss insurance.

 

6. I don't know if he was a demon, but he looked like a demon.

 

5. VENGEANCE! Also, Tuesday.

 

4. Testing if I can lure a victim to my murder hole in 140 characters or less.

 

3. A little gift I give myself after every hundredth form rejection.

 

2. I've just never trusted kindergarten teachers. Maybe it's the felt boards?

 

 

 

And the #1 reason for murder...?

 

 

 

1. Star Wars, Episodes 1-3


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:51 PM

I'll see your SW Ep. 1-3 and raise you SW Ep. 6 - F'ing EWOKS....................... Now there is a reason for murder.


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:51 PM

I can barely type my response after reading Jenan's. :D My fingers are barely functional due to the fact I'm laughing my *ss off right now. Once again, I tip my creative hat to him, and thanks for bringing a smile my way.

 

But I'd like to say that I agree AND disagree with his #7, because while it may be called life insurance, it's really a DEATH benefit. ;) Insert my evil laugh here.

 

And since we've all gotta go sometime, I'd say this is the numero uno reason for murder, and evil individuals have made a killing in the market for years.   :wink: Trust me on this one.


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 01:58 PM

Tom, you raised an interesting point and it is a premise I am working on in the sequel to my first MS. That is, what do you do with a person whom you know, beyond a reasonable doubt, has crossed a line from which there simply is no rehabilitation. I know, from my line of work, that there are those individuals for whom there simply is no other way. They will kill until they are stopped. The question is, if prison is only a "time out" for them, is their demise justified? A moral dilemma generally exists for only the moral people of society.

 

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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:33 PM

This thread reminds me of a murder that happened in NJ many moons ago: I think his name was John List. If I remember correctly, he killed his wife and children because he thought it was the only way to keep them from sinning. While it might seem psychotic, it's important to note he never killed again. He was eventually caught, but the point is that he believed he was saving them by killing them.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:40 PM

Looking further, List had been skimming money off his mother and his wife had been very sick with syphilis contracted from her first husband. He believed that he had only two options: kill his family so they could go to heaven or be forced to go on welfare. He was too proud for welfare, apparently.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 02:49 PM

I remember the List case, being a NY boy...... another interesting case. In the end I believe it was financial reasons that drove him to do what he did. 


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 03:33 PM

Yup. Possibly the second most famous NJ murder -- after the Lindberg baby and not counting myriad mob hits.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 10:15 PM

Andrew, you may be interested in my solution.  You kill him because he wants you to when he assaults you.



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:19 AM

Sorta like suicide by cop?


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 03:59 PM

In my case it's suicide by ex cop, but yeah.  Wait for the book.  I was surprised when the killer came out sympathetic.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:36 PM

Love seeing this.  Dark dark fun. And Mr. Nelson, you may borrow my evil laugh anytime.

 

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:20 PM

Muhahaha 


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