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#21 Pete Morin

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:07 PM

Perhaps the length is a function of the desire for "all works," since the third book won't be written for a while. Ditto what Litgal said.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:08 PM

Thanks Sophie. Termination is 120 days notice which also seems incredibly long and it only applies AFTER the initial term which is the 5 years. it's awkward b/c I know the attorneys who drafted this agreement (I used to work at that firm in different area) but it's such a pro-agent contract it's a little crazy...hopefully he is open to major modifications I guess we'll see. Appreciate your feedback this is my first offer and my first novel so I wanted to make sure my gut reactions weren't out of line! thanks!

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:13 PM

It's also VERY odd that this agent needed a contract drawn up. Most experienced agents have one already and just make minor changes as needed for each client. ARE YOU SURE this agent is the real deal? The 120 days is OUTRAGEOUS but NOT AS OUTRAGEOUS as having NO WAY OUT for 5 years. What if the agent just lets your work sit (it happened to a friend of mine) and never submits? I think I'd run not walk away from this deal.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:15 PM

Thanks Pete that makes sense since I'm just in very beginning of 2nd novel so it will be a long time to even contemplate a third! and thanks for contact re: attorney if I don't find one locally (I'm in Nashville) I'll look into it...

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 11:10 AM

Thank you very much for the fantastic information. I now have a printed list next to my phone and is ready for THE CALL! :smile:
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 11:31 AM

I love my agent and hope to be working with him 5, 10 ad 15 years from now. However, I think I would have run the other way from a five year contract with no out.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:17 AM

Geez the only call I ever get is from Nature...


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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:49 PM

Perhaps the more seasoned writers among us could give advice as to how to find a legitimate literary agent. I just finished a memoir which I wrote on the urging of my children, it's about my growing up in colonial era in Asia in the 50's and 60's.

Today I got a contract from GILBERT LITERARY AGENCY
Subsidiary of Hawkspurr Productions but I am not sure whether this is a agent that I could trust. Is it usual for an agent to ask for $45 upfront? (see below)

"Note: Apart from this one-off only ‘voluntary’ token fee contribution of Forty-Five ($45.00USD) dollars only, the Agency shall continue to provide ongoing ‘upfront’ financial support and is to cover all other associated costs referred to as ‘Reimbursable Expenses’, which may be incurred to the Agency on behalf of the client during client representation’ to publishers. ‘Reimbursable Expenses’ are solely pertaining to costs whereby the Agent may consider it expedient to provide ‘hard copy of ‘works’ to those publishers who do not provide electronic online facilities, but who will accept this method of manuscript submissions. However, this action is not followed up on or without prior consent and the approval of the Author first."

Any help is appreciated

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:09 PM

From what I've read, a reputable agent doesn't ask for any fees (including costs) up front.

Your best bet is to Google the name of the agency and add the word "complaint", "scam" "for real", etc and see what type of info you find.
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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:44 PM

A legitimate agent wouldn't ask for money. They are Not Recommended by Preditors and Editors. Here is the link: http://pred-ed.com/pealg.htm

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:59 AM

Quick question guys. If you queried the agents last year in say November, would it be around this time for them to reply back? Or when is the normal time for agencies to reopen their doors?


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:44 PM

Unless an agency (or agent) posts that they are closed to queries, I don't know if there is any reopening of doors. 

 

But, as far as how long should you wait to expect to hear back from a certain agent...that is one where there is no right answer.  The longest I ever waited for a form rejection was 6 months.  The shortest I ever waited was twelve minutes. 

 

The longest I ever waited for a request was 6 months (though most have never been longer than 6 weeks), and the shortest I ever waited for a request was fifteen minutes.

 

So, to answer your question...anywhere in between those spectrums.

 

A good rule of thumb...if you haven't heard back in 2 months...move on. 


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:43 PM

I guess I'm kind of an "expert" in The Call at this point, since I did it five times within one week, and three times in a single day. :blush: One of them was a cold-call. (I'd love to have been wearing a heart monitor at the time to see what happened to my heart rate.)

 

I think the biggest thing about The Call is being prepared with some questions (a printout is good, because yeah, your brain will freeze), and then checking them off as the agent answers. A lot of the answers happened during the first half of the conversation where the agent did most of the talking, before I even asked.

 

Also, every agent I talked to said if I thought of more questions to please feel free to email them. Don't be afraid to take advantage of that. As my agent said, "I love questions!" I think most of them do. Especially from writers they're hoping to sign.


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 10:09 PM

Very helpful stuff in this thread. It would be nice to think I could be as stone-faced as the camel beside this post during the call, but if/when it happens, I'm pretty sure wet britches (as others mentioned) would be more likely.


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:54 PM

Pete, is that you? I hadn't heard your story before.

 

Although, three submissions ain't terribly impressive.



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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:08 PM

Thank you for your opinion, Steve. Good thing I'm not trying to impress you.


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:13 PM

I think even GETTING to the submission stage is incredibly, terribly, amazingly impressive, Steve. You've impressed the rest of us :)
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Posted 19 October 2013 - 11:38 PM

All of these are such wonderful, inspiring stories. I seriously can't wait to add my own story to this forum. I'll love to describe my OMG moment lol.
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