Going on Submission...
Posted 15 January 2011 - 08:21 AM
But feel free to post other blog posts and links about this process in this thread.
Or, for the benefit of other AQC members to read and ask questions...feel free to start a new thread in this group, citing your own experience with going out on submission
Posted 17 May 2011 - 10:42 AM
#1. The pitch. Does anyone have an example of an agent's pitch? I can't even begin to imagine how instructive this would be to the query process.
#2. Can they sell it? This goes right along with the pitch, which ios also part of those relationships they have with the publishing folks, you know, the relationships we don't have.
It seems to me, if we could see a couple pitches, we could all make a quantum leap in understanding how to shop our MS to agents.
Posted 17 May 2011 - 10:56 AM
Posted 17 May 2011 - 12:42 PM
#2. Can they sell it? This goes right along with the pitch, which is also part of those relationships they have with the publishing folks, you know, the relationships we don't have.
My sense from having been on submission twice (once near-miss-but-no-sale and the second time with a book that sold) is that the rejationships the agents have with editors is VERY important. If an editor has known an agent for years (profitably -- meaning he/she has bought books from the agent before and seen what the agent has sold to other houses) she/he has a certain level of faith/trust in the agent's "taste." So when the agent comes to them and says "I have this brilliant story about 13th century sisters who were also queens by a wondeful new writer that I know will be a good fit with your imprint" the editor at least has a sense your agent isn't blowing smoke.
While I think agents "pitch" I get the sense that there is more of a conversation than a query letter pitch allows. For example I know that my agent never sent my manuscripts and his cover letter to any editor he hadn't personally discussed the book with in advance and who hadn't said they wanted to see it. Few authors have that luxuary (unless they meet an agent at a conference) when pitching agents.
I think seeing a few agent pitches would be brilliant but I can't imagine how we ever would be privy to them. And I can't imagine an agent offering real-life examples up to be posted on line.
Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:59 PM
Posted 27 September 2011 - 05:24 PM
In terms of pitch's ravage, the process is different between writer/agent and agent/editor. However, they are similar in personalizing, but that may be the only similarity. As far as expanding the query, as RC points out, that's what my agent did. At firsdt, I was stunned because it didn't fit my idea, but that's where the explanation of personlizing the editors came in. Sure I embarrassed the hell out of myself, but I'll never have to ask that question again. =}
Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:58 PM
As it has been suggested, going out on submission is not for the faint of heart! And I certainly would not want to do it alone. There is so much more than just a pitch sent off willy-nilly to an editor.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 05:37 PM
Submission Hell: It's True. Yes... it's the SHIT.
rep: Caryn Wiseman, Andrea Brown Literary Agency
Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:28 AM
Posted 22 January 2012 - 04:52 PM
An important post on why you must take a long-term view once you are agented. Submission is not for the faint of heart and it may take more than one MS to get your deal.
Exactly. I went out on submission, and it didn't go. Wrote another book, which Agent Lady really just didn't dig. I then wrote ANOTHER book, which she dug, and it went out, and sold within a few months. It's really about "the long game". Regarding what or how Agent Lady pitches, I think her rep allows her to say to editors "hey, you just gotta read this, man!" and they give it a shot. She's INSANELY great with regards to finding the RIGHT editor for the RIGHT book. She really leaves no stone unturned, and that's what a good agent does for their clients when going through the submission phase of the relationship, imo.
Posted 23 January 2012 - 02:37 PM
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