You Tell US... We're Listening
Posted 28 July 2011 - 07:49 PM
We have a lot of new faces here, so slap on a name tag (Peri Oddical and Original Zygote, yes... you guys too), get a drink from the open bar, and give us an idea of how it's going...
Posted 28 July 2011 - 08:06 PM
I do hope I'm preaching to the choir here, though.
Also, for polling purposes, perhaps it'd be better if it were anonymous? I mean, you know, even more anonymous than the internet already is.
Posted 28 July 2011 - 08:07 PM
I'm loving the AQC site. I just posted my query yesterday and have gotten quite a bit of feedback. I also like that all the feedback hasn't been sugar-coated. I'm all about being honest without being mean and i've gotten that and some nice comments as well. I look forward to exploring the site more and receiving more critique on my query and then eventually my synopsis....
Great to meet you all ! :raises hand with drink:
Posted 28 July 2011 - 09:00 PM
Writing as Evelyn Adams
Posted 28 July 2011 - 09:23 PM
THE IMPENDING DEMISE OF THE GIRL WITH BROWN EYES coming Dec 2013 from Immortal Ink Publishing.
Posted 28 July 2011 - 10:08 PM
Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:01 AM
But seriously, even the critiques that make me go OUCH!! have been incredibly helpful. It really demonstrates that your work is not a beautiful precious jewel to other people like it is to you. Nope, it's just a few more paragraphs to grade. Ahhh, perspective.
Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:20 AM
We write to the constrictions of form. Nobody told me before that I had to write to the forms of query, synopsis, outline, etc. It's just as creative an act as what we've all been doing.
Bottom line. We write for a reader. That reader gets what he/or she can from the media available. We struggle to access that media so they can read it.
I'm feeling good tonight. I've had a lot of great feedback from my beta readers. I know a lot about what I have to fix. I wouldn't be here this fast without this forum.
I'm still paranoid. i can't figure out who is paying for this...
Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:21 AM
Author of Genocide to Genesis
Posted 29 July 2011 - 06:57 AM
As to the crying, I'm with Eli Ashpence - a thick skin is a must in the writing biz. That being said, nothing's wrong with letting out a few tears of frustration...every once in a while
Posted 29 July 2011 - 07:20 AM
Being too harsh is, in my opinion, pure bitterness. Having said that, feedback in this site is really great, I love it. Just my kind of feedback, even though I get some scrooges every now and then
"Rocks in my path? I keep them all. One day, I shall build a castle."
Meticulous Editing, Creative Content Writer
Posted 29 July 2011 - 09:56 AM
Posted 29 July 2011 - 10:04 AM
I also think query writing and critiquing can become an endless loop if folks let it. How many threads have I seen lately with hundreds of views and dozens of drafts?! The truth is the end goal of this process is actually sending a query and getting an agent and book deal – that means forward movement is necessary and fine-tuning your query should take considerably less time and effort than writing your novel did.
Posted 29 July 2011 - 10:18 AM
I'm probably a little blunt sometimes.
If a person can't accept opinions from others, they don't need to be putting their work out there for critique.
People don't need to be mean or catty.
We also don't need to let sloppy writing go by either, just to keep from hurting someone's feelings.
Give praise when needed.
The critiques have helped my query.
I don't agree with every comment, but that's part of the process, finding what works for you and your story.
Chisel away until your voice comes through.
Posted 29 July 2011 - 10:34 AM
-I got a lot of conflicting feedback. Some loved my query. Some hated it. I viewed this as a good thing. It made me realize my readers felt strongly about my writing. If every comment was "meh" I wouldn't have gotten anywhere. But, conflicting advice is hard to balance. Writers need to be diligent about understanding their voice, their story and their motives behind choosing each word they write. This can be intimidating, and if writers are very new to the arena, a bit scary and hurtful. We try to accomodate every piece of feedback to make others happy, often to the detriment of our query.
-Some feedback was harsh. Seriously, one critter flat out said he hated it and wouldn't keep reading past the first few words. He told me why. This kind of honest feedback is welcomed--well, not the hate part. Another said I was being "cutesy and unprofessional". This commentary was an attack on me as a writer and is never constructive. So, even an honest critique that stings isn't all bad. It really makes you evaluate your goals for how you laid out your query and how effective you were in succeeding. But all feedback must be given respectfully. There's a huge difference in how that feels and the impact it can make on a writer. Particularly a new writer with little experience in receiving a critique.
Over the years, I've seen many critiques that virtually say the same thing. One will be encouraging while the other will be defeating. It's all in the way we say it. I try to build up the writers I crit, while providing honest, helpful feedback and the reason behind it. That, to me, is the key to a solid critique. We can't learn from someone saying, "I hate that," or "Do it this way." We can learn from someone saying, "This doesn't work for me because..."
At times, I also try to provide an example to better illustrate my point. My hope is that writers will get a better grasp on what I mean and then use this new perspective as a jumping off point for further creativity on their behalf.
But that's just me...and apparently the novel I just wrote. Sorry for the long post. No wonder my childhood nickname was Mouth.
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 11:32 AM
Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:03 PM
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:25 PM
Posted 29 July 2011 - 03:26 PM
I try to be constructive in my crits. To be honest, there are times when a query is just so bad that I don't think I'd have anything more constructive than to say "throw this away and start over from scratch: What is the conflict in the story?" I'm not sure I've actually shared that on a query yet, but that's how I've felt about several.
Hey, I've felt that way about lots of queries I see! I've started only critiquing people who've been members a couple of months. That way I feel like, if they've been reading the posts and other info, maybe they've picked up something and aren't a one shot deal.
I try not to discourage people. It's hard to put yourself out there via your writing. If someone's got far enough to finish an entire manuscript, they deserve encouragement. That's the same reason I critique a few manuscripts in other groups. As a bonus, lots of times I see my own mistakes in other people's work so it's a win-win situation.
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