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#41 LucidDreamer

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:00 AM

Something else to keep in mind, in terms of so-called "public domain" items, whether they be print, photos, etc.:

An item can be in the public domain but the version and/or edition of that item you are thinking of using is NOT. This happens a lot with printed sheet music, where the piece itself is in the public domain but the specific edition of that piece is still under copyright to the editor and/or publisher. It can also happen with various editions of famous works (Shakespeare, MIlton, etc.) or with translations. If someone else has touched that work and edited it in any way (or created a new translation or a new, enhanced version of a photo, and so on) the piece can still have copyright restrictions.

We have this problem all the time at work (I work in a performing and visual arts library). People assume that they can use a piece without worrying because it is "so old" it must be in the public domain. This is not always the case. If you are doing anything commercial with an image, clip, excerpt, etc. it is always best to ask for permission to use the work -- or go to the sites mentioned on here where you can find legitimate stock photos, etc. Creative Commons is a good source but you have to be certain what is allowed by the creator.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:05 PM

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Anything I've missed or should elaborate on further? I'll add to this post as things are clarified or the landscape changes.


There's a third option: Creative Commons licensed works.

They also offer a search engine for Creative Commons: http://search.creativecommons.org/, covering different media and their respective hosting sites (after all, eBooks are not technically bound by the same limits as a traditional book).

Google Image Search also allows to filter by usage rights in the Advanced search settings (I couldn't find such an option with Bing's image search, and nobody uses Yahoo! anymore. ;) ).

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:34 AM

Very interesting topic. Kind of makes E-publishing look really daunting to the uninformed.

I know this is pretty much off the topic, I just feel that I should put it out there. As for the whole images and copyrights, I must agree with Peter Burton with creating ones own works of art for use of cover design. You being the artist will have all the rights by default. And if your not such a great artist, you could invest in a digital sketch pad like the Kanvus range, with an application like ArtRage, which would allow you to trace images, and then alter them as you like, or draw from scratch. And being solely digital, you have access to not only pencil but oil paint, airbrush, pastel, wax, etc. So you are only really limited to your own imagination and how much time you put into it (and you save paper). I would go this d.i.y route as being a citizen of a country outside the US means that we will end up paying a lot more money for images from stock sites, i.e; your US$5 is our ZAR35, say I buy 5 images to create into one cover, that's ZAR175.00 which is a lot in SA compared to the US$25 you would pay for your 5 images.

On a separate note, E-pubing is a great way for a new writer to get some experience in the game, and make a name for him/herself (I know I am seriously considering this route) and even maybe make a little money out of it. Otherwise great, insightful article. Thanks very much.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:14 AM

I'd be careful with the creative commons pieces-- my entire story got listed on scribd.com as being free for use and manipulation via creative commons, and let me tell you, it is NOT. I'd worry that those images may not have all the proper model releases and licensing.

As for using stock photos, I've found most covers for ebooks only use 2 stock photos, since you don't usually want something too busy and with a lot of elements. A crisper, less cluttered image tends to work better with most thumbnail images of the cover, so usually a background and a model/central image is all you need.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:54 AM

Calista, I quite agree with you about the design. But I stitch several images together to create what will be a single element in the final cover. In one, I have head, neck, arms, chest, and hand, all from different sources to create one person.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:59 AM

That's true, Robin. But most people will just find a model that works for (or comes close to) what they're looking for. It's usually beyond most people's expertise to piece all those elements together without it looking like something a serial killer put together. lol.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 02:43 PM

By the way, rights for ebooks is different than print books in some cases when it comes to using images. However, remember if you decide to "print on demand" a title or two this may infringe on your image's rights if you chose 'cheaper' ones because you planned to only use them in electronic format. Plus, some images are cheap until you sell a certain number of copies for your book. So say you bought the license for 10K uses but you end up selling 20K ebooks....

So, I guess what I am saying is don't cheap out. Think optimistically so you don't accidentally screw yourself over if things go well. :happy:

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 06:01 AM

This has more to do with using images for your blog, but has some great links (and tips) for blog pics that wouldn't violate copyright laws. Just remember that creative commons use for commercial use is what you'd need for book covers.

http://www.thebookde.../3-photo-tools/

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:52 AM

This has more to do with using images for your blog, but has some great links (and tips) for blog pics that wouldn't violate copyright laws. Just remember that creative commons use for commercial use is what you'd need for book covers.

http://www.thebookde.../3-photo-tools/


Thanks for the link, Cali. Photopin.com is great.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 11:59 AM

Thanks for the link, Cali. Photopin.com is great.


I've yet to check it out, but its on my to do. : ) Glad you like using it.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:00 PM

What about legal language that is used within the book?  Technically, aren't the expressions of those legal ideas copyrighted by the attorney(s) who originally drafted them?  I'm speaking of things like "any similarities between real people and events is purely coincidental" and such.  I've been trying to research the topic to see if there was any legalese in the public domain, but all that comes up is, well, legalese defining the term "public domain." :)


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:10 PM

I'm not sure if this is the correct place, but I looked around and honestly couldn't find a forum that it seemed to fit in. So please indulge me and if the mod's think it should be some place else please move to the appropriate venue.

 

My question is this, after reading this thread, I am a bit worried that in my book there are two different quotes I use and I am wondering if I should remove them.

 

One is a passage where music is playing in a car during an accident. I use several lines from a song by Meatloaf and it is attributed to him.

 

The second is when my MC quotes Robert Byrnes (1785) ""The best-laid plans of mice and men, Often go awry."

 

Should I reconsider using them? 

 

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:59 PM

Byrnes is in the public domain. Meatloaf is not. You would need to contact his people for permission. I hear he's a pretty great guy, but keep it legal. Fair use is dodgy with song lyrics because they're already so short.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 05:28 PM

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 04:27 PM

Wow! I considered permission for pictures, but fonts? Wow! I didn't know they were copyrighted. Seems like the only thing to do is get out the crayons. Are there any fonts that are free?

 

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:19 PM

The book-copyright protected as original work, understood.

 Is there a distinction for Titles? If you inadvertantly share am exact title, what is the general rule?


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:59 AM

Titles can't be copyrighted, as I understand it. They can be trademarked, but it's an expensive and involved process so it doesn't happen often, usually only with a title that also acts a brand. For example, "Star Trek" is a title, but it's trademarked to protect the Star Trek brand. So is "Harry Potter". Most movie and book titles are not. For example, there are 34 shows and movies titled "The Awakening". So, long story short, you probably don't need to worry. :)

 

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:23 PM

Thanks Whimsy. You have me...ahem...covered ( and a beautiful COVER it is ).
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Posted 17 October 2013 - 03:07 PM

Hahaha!  :tongue: 

 

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 02:12 PM

So found a site that says you can create your own fonts off of windows. Could this be true? I can't paste right now, having issues on this site, but I'll try to write it in as best I can and hope I don't miss anything...

 

http://www.makeuseof...acters-windows/

 

edit: doesn't look like I did it right. :blush:


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