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#21 C. Taylor

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:21 PM

You've gotten great advice. If she doesn't tell you to pull it, then I'd say market it as best you can, get as many sales as you can, and hope that the numbers will be good enough to either garner interest in this book (or in future books), or use the numbers to your advantage when querying in the future. If she's not interested, then do your best to get good numbers and exposure and get your name out there. Agents do go looking for particular stories from time to time if they think they can sell a particular genre/story type, and they're not seeing it in their queries. Out of the three agents I've had, 2 of them found me, and I credit that to being "out there" and having enough exposure that I show up if they do a search for the type of stuff I write.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:41 PM

Short of the agent telling you that she loves it and wants you to pull it down, I'd totally recommend you follow what Cali is telling you.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:45 PM

All good advice. I didn't want to send my full because I already published and I wanted to be up front with her about what the situation was. Not that I've sold many copies yet, but I told her I only just published about a week ago.

BTW how long do agents usually take to email you back? It looks like her website just went up on March 2, and she emailed me today the 8th. So I'm hoping she wants to get on the ball, but I dont know what to expect.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:04 PM

Well, Caterina, you probably should give her a bit more than a few hours to respond. She could be busy (starting up her own agency and all) or even considering your email. Give her a few days ;)

That is quite the predicament though! I think my dad's sage (if crazy) advice comes into play here: Don't rush into things!

The fact that your book hasn't been on the market long might be to your advantage. I wish you the best of luck!
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:31 PM

Out of the three agents I've had, 2 of them found me...


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Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:35 PM

You've gotten great advice. If she doesn't tell you to pull it, then I'd say market it as best you can, get as many sales as you can, and hope that the numbers will be good enough to either garner interest in this book (or in future books), or use the numbers to your advantage when querying in the future. If she's not interested, then do your best to get good numbers and exposure and get your name out there. Agents do go looking for particular stories from time to time if they think they can sell a particular genre/story type, and they're not seeing it in their queries. Out of the three agents I've had, 2 of them found me, and I credit that to being "out there" and having enough exposure that I show up if they do a search for the type of stuff I write.


btw Cali - you have self-published experience, right (unless I'm confusing you with someone else)? What did the agents think of this? Anyone want to republish your self published work?

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 08:01 PM

Thanks, Jean!! It still surprises me too! lol.

Caterina, the book I self pubb'd was the one that got me my first agent (the traditional way). I queried, she signed me, we started to go on submission, and then part way through submissions, the agency I was with switched to YA/MG exclusively and I was dropped. And because it had already partially been out on submissions, there was no point in requerying it-- no agent would bother. It was collecting dust, but once ebooks became a viable option, I figured I had nothing to lose with that series so I epubb'd it.

My second agent found me because of my blog (book wasn't epubb'd yet) when he needed someone to make a steampunk clothing craft book (was looking for someone doing steampunk, crafting/sewing, and could write). That book sold to a traditional publisher and will be out in Sept. And then the third agent was from a very recent inquiry about my Viridis series (the one that was collecting dust and I epubb'd) and whether I was interested in selling it in Japan. But had it not been "out there" and epubb'd, that opportunity wouldn't have come up. Getting the agent there has been awesome, and it'll be even better if she manages to sell to a publisher there! lol.

So basically, having my blog, twitter and book out there has been useful in getting an agent, even if it's not necessarily the traditional route for publishing or getting an agent. These days, there's more than one road you can take as a writer. Think of Ruthie, who's just hit 100K in royalties in the 6 months she's had her book out. A traditional publishing deal is SWEET!!! But things are a bit different these days and there are more options for writers.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:29 PM

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:32 AM

Thanks, Jean!! It still surprises me too! lol.

Caterina, the book I self pubb'd was the one that got me my first agent (the traditional way). I queried, she signed me, we started to go on submission, and then part way through submissions, the agency I was with switched to YA/MG exclusively and I was dropped. And because it had already partially been out on submissions, there was no point in requerying it-- no agent would bother. It was collecting dust, but once ebooks became a viable option, I figured I had nothing to lose with that series so I epubb'd it.

My second agent found me because of my blog (book wasn't epubb'd yet) when he needed someone to make a steampunk clothing craft book (was looking for someone doing steampunk, crafting/sewing, and could write). That book sold to a traditional publisher and will be out in Sept. And then the third agent was from a very recent inquiry about my Viridis series (the one that was collecting dust and I epubb'd) and whether I was interested in selling it in Japan. But had it not been "out there" and epubb'd, that opportunity wouldn't have come up. Getting the agent there has been awesome, and it'll be even better if she manages to sell to a publisher there! lol.

So basically, having my blog, twitter and book out there has been useful in getting an agent, even if it's not necessarily the traditional route for publishing or getting an agent. These days, there's more than one road you can take as a writer. Think of Ruthie, who's just hit 100K in royalties in the 6 months she's had her book out. A traditional publishing deal is SWEET!!! But things are a bit different these days and there are more options for writers.



Yeah, that's just still to fuckin' awesome, Cali. Way.To.Go.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:57 AM

Caterina, have you heard anything?

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:00 AM

Yeah, that's just still to fuckin' awesome, Cali. Way.To.Go.


Thanks, bones! Hopefully something more will come out of the interest for Japan. I guess I never was one for the straight road. lol. ; )

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:39 AM

Yeah, that's just still to fuckin' awesome, Cali. Way.To.Go.


I second his words. VERY VERY AWESOME, GO CALI! Whoop whoop

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:41 AM

Caterina, have you heard anything?


Nothing yet, and I'm beginning to think it's because I replied to her email and the subject line still said "Query: Zombie Whisperer." Hopefully she didn't see it and think it was a new query to add to her already growing pile of queries.

All I asked was a question in my replied email. Would it be premature to start a new email to her and Jordy (Jordy was cc'd in her earlier email) with a new subject line, like "Requested materials" or something along those lines?

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:33 PM

I second his words. VERY VERY AWESOME, GO CALI! Whoop whoop


Thanks, Caterina! As for emailing the agent again, I'd likely check their site for their normal response time to requested material, since most agents take a while to get back to you, even if it's something they requested. And if in the end it's not something they're interested in, just make the most of it being self pub'd so you can then use your numbers as a plus when you query your next project.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:12 PM

Good advice, Cali.

Remember: agents can smell a desperate or unsure writer a mile off. You don't want to come off as either of those. (not saying you are, of course) If they are really excited about your work, they WILL get back to you, trust me.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:28 PM

Thanks, Caterina! As for emailing the agent again, I'd likely check their site for their normal response time to requested material, since most agents take a while to get back to you, even if it's something they requested. And if in the end it's not something they're interested in, just make the most of it being self pub'd so you can then use your numbers as a plus when you query your next project.


From Query Tracker, It says she takes three months to respond to full manuscript submissions. =( I didn't send my manuscript because I wanted to know if she still wanted it since i self-pub'd, so I literally just asked a question in my reply.

I'm going to have to start marketing again. I thought maybe I shouldn't do that and wait to see what she wanted first since it was very recent when i self-pub'd.

Good advice, Cali.



Remember: agents can smell a desperate or unsure writer a mile off. You don't want to come off as either of those. (not saying you are, of course) If they are really excited about your work, they WILL get back to you, trust me.


Ok, I'll try not to come off as desperate or unsure. I'm going to have to put on my patient hat.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:51 AM

UPDATE: After reading her submission process for emails, it says she will not take "queries" to her direct email address (My replied email had 'query' in the subject line), so I figured my emails would be cached as junk.

I started a new email to her (making sure I mentioned she requested my full) and cc'd Jordy that explained my situation AND this time I attached the full manuscript for zombie whisperer. Now it's a waiting game. According to query tracker, her average response time is 70 days.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:10 AM

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:23 AM

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.


Thanks! Me too!




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